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Revit & steel fabrication models...
Written by John   
Thursday, 04 February 2010 10:01

As part of my never-ending challenge of producing better 3D backgrounds for MEP coordination I've been trying to export a quadrant based Steel fabrication model.

Here's why:

1) Our Revit Structure model doesn't have all the small connections, angles and slab edge reinforcement modeled.  Our steel fabrication model does.

I got it working, but blew up a couple times in the process... and kept me in the office until 8PM last night (despite the fact I was working on my new Revit monster with 36 GB of RAM and 6 simultaneous sessions of Revit when importing my IFCs)

1) Revit 2009 + IFC import.  Geometry isn't cleanly imported.  Geometry gets unjoined (or can't be created at all!) ultimately, I get columns that disconnect from beams like so:

IFC column confusion

2) Revit Structure 2009 + Structure extensions + CIS/2 Import

Random small pieces of geometry aren't created.  Others are created with problems identified in the images below:

 

In orange: Original DWG from steel fabricator

In Grey: CIS/2 STP of same model from steel fabricator.  Imported into Revit, exported as an NWC.

Slab Edge

As you can see, the CIS2 RVT is missing the edge of slab & precast embeds.

 

angle bracing

This is far more troubling -- the slope and attachment points of angle bracing has changed.  I'm actually dealing with some sloped roof drains in this bay, so the CIS2 imported model is useless for this reason alone.

 

more angle

same issue, different location.  All of my small diagonal bracing & kickers are off w/ the CIS/2 RVT model.

 

Gusset Plate

 

The final straw is the large connections for our W14x211 brace frames.

 

Bottom line?  Way too much detail is lost in CIS/2 --> RVT and IFC --> RVT.

The only geometrically accurate option (even though I lose edge of slab reinforcing bar):

Blank Revit project, import all the DWGs, and deal with the artifacts and "space junk" that happen when Revit attempts to cut a DWG, when I export it along with all of the designers models (which are all native Revit files, and cut rather cleanly... except for Revit MEP, which is another story).

space junk

 

 

 

Last Updated on Thursday, 04 February 2010 10:36
 
Thanks for a great BIMForum!
Written by John   
Thursday, 21 January 2010 08:54

Although some people may not know, the Phoenix BIMForum was put on by the Emerging Leaders subforum, a group I co-chair within the BIMForum along with Sarah Vekasy. Sarah’s help and leadership was instrumental, along with other members of the conference leadership team – Carl Roberts from Ballard Spahr LLP and Chris Fischer from Schuff Steel. David Epps from Holder gets an honorary mention, but Holder keeps David too busy!

Anyhow, it was a great event, from a fantastic Gensler presentation by Shawn Gehle and Ken Sanders on LA Live and the Shanghai Tower, to a blow-your-hair-back presentation from Jeff McGrew with Because We Can/10 Miles Wide… the entire event was a blast.

One item of note was on Wednesday (1/13) before the BIMForum, we hosted tours of some sophisticated trade contractors from around the Metro-Phoenix area. I organized this, so I’m a little hesitant to pass judgment on it, but if you float on over to Laura Handler’s blog, you’ll find some discussion there on it.

Without further ado, some eye candy…

CNC Pipe Cutter @ Schuff

 

More Photos after the Jump -- Read on!

Last Updated on Thursday, 21 January 2010 09:31
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Greetings Earthlings, I’'m Hollywood BIM!
Written by John   
Wednesday, 11 November 2009 09:46

dirty hollywood BIM bot!

and I’m here to blind you with my razzle-dazzle!

 


One of the dangerous trends I’ve seen over the past 2-3 years in the construction industry is fake-BIM.

These posers typically are guilty of:

· Create pretty, pretty renderings that don’t help construction (but look really good)

· Taking credit for their trade contractors’ 3D MEP coordination work

· Fail to adopt VDC as an integral part of their daily preconstruction & construction operations.

But why call it Hollywood BIM? Simple, really.

1) Most builders who use pretty pictures to sell their capabilities use a fancy rendering engine.

2) …and most of those think “Hollywood BIM” is a compliment, which appeals to my dry sense of humor.

 

So don’t be a Hollywood BIMer -- turn it into an operational tool that your field staff don’t want to work without.

 

Last Updated on Thursday, 12 November 2009 21:54
 
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